Canada, Europe planning defense 'without US at the centre' for first time since WWII

Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney on Monday warned his country must reduce its reliance on the United States and would turn towards its “reliable” European allies instead on his first trip abroad. FRANCE 24’s Sharon Gaffney speaks to Scott Lucas, Professor of US and International Politics at the Clinton Institute at University College Dublin. He says that for the first time since WWII Canada and Europe are planning for defense ‘without assuming the US is at the center of it’.